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Old Feb 29, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48   #21
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Barrage with no question for the best Ranger elite. Capping Barrage is in my opinion the "Coming of Age" for new Rangers, acquiring one of the most versatile skills Rangers have.
versatile?

No thats cripshot.

My 2nd fave would be Magebane and then Burning Arrow which im sort of over now. I'd like to try an escape ranger though
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56   #22
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versatile?

No thats cripshot.

My 2nd fave would be Magebane and then Burning Arrow which im sort of over now. I'd like to try an escape ranger though
So a single target attack, that does no bonus damage and cripples a target is more versatile than an aoe attack that does +21 bonus damage with half the energy cost? Crip shotting casters ftw?
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26   #23
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So a single target attack, that does no bonus damage and cripples a target is more versatile than an aoe attack that does +21 bonus damage with half the energy cost? Crip shotting casters ftw?
Yes.


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Pve Prep/Burning or BHA though most commonly i run EDA
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29   #24
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Mine would have to be the so underused Glass Arrows or Melandru's Arrows or Melandru Shot.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 02:51 AM // 02:51   #25
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So a single target attack, that does no bonus damage and cripples a target is more versatile than an aoe attack that does +21 bonus damage with half the energy cost? Crip shotting casters ftw?
Barrage is a terrible skill if you're not hitting lots of enemies
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52   #26
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Barrage is a terrible skill if you're not hitting lots of enemies
Thats why you run Volley with a useful elite like BHA or BA.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04   #27
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[skill]Smoke Trap[/skill][skill]Crippling Shot[/skill][skill]Magebane Shot[/skill][skill]Broad head Arrow[/skill][skill]Escape[/skill][skill]Burning Arrow[/skill]

Rangers have the best elites.

<3 Escape when I'm trapping.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34   #28
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Cripshot
Magebane
Broad Head Arrow

Every criterion for ranger is established there.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33   #29
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Barrage is a terrible skill if you're not hitting lots of enemies
Even against single targets, Barrage is an amazing elite. It has practically no cooldown, compared to the 6-10 second cooldowns of other Ranger attack skills, it costs 5 energy, compared to the 10 energy cost of some other Ranger attacks (Power Shot, Pen Shot, Sundering Shot), and it does 1/2 to 2/3 of the other attack skills bonus damage. A single target spammable attack, or a massive aoe attack > crip one target with no bonus damage.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36   #30
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Burning Arrow=works great with apply poison
magebane=but you have to actually be good at interruptings
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37   #31
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[skill]Crippling Shot[/skill]
[skill]broad head arrow[/skill]
[skill]burning arrow[/skill]
[skill]magebane shot[/skill]
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40   #32
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Even against single targets, Barrage is an amazing elite. It has practically no cooldown, compared to the 6-10 second cooldowns of other Ranger attack skills, it costs 5 energy, compared to the 10 energy cost of some other Ranger attacks (Power Shot, Pen Shot, Sundering Shot), and it does 1/2 to 2/3 of the other attack skills bonus damage. A single target spammable attack, or a massive aoe attack > crip one target with no bonus damage.
You seem to be under the delusion that damage is everything and cripple is nothing.

Battlefield control > damage, if I wanted a class that could kill things I wouldn't take a ranger.
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Distracting Shot. Oh wait, they forgot to make it elite.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54   #34
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Distracting Shot. Oh wait, they forgot to make it elite.
That's my favorite skill in the game, don't touch it!
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53   #35
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Cripshot
RaO
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04   #36
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for PvE either Glass Arrows or BHA
for PvP Magebane, Crip Shot, BA, BHA
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55   #37
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magebane=but you have to actually be good at interruptings
Wrong Savage Shot+Distracting Shot+Magebane Shot roll your finger over the keyboard...
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45   #38
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Even against single targets, Barrage is an amazing elite. It has practically no cooldown, compared to the 6-10 second cooldowns of other Ranger attack skills, it costs 5 energy, compared to the 10 energy cost of some other Ranger attacks (Power Shot, Pen Shot, Sundering Shot), and it does 1/2 to 2/3 of the other attack skills bonus damage. A single target spammable attack, or a massive aoe attack > crip one target with no bonus damage.
Fire Ele > Barrage ranger in terms of AoE damage because Rodgort's Invocation hurts.

Burning Arrow > Barrage in terms of single target damage because Burning is not affected by armor.

Volley > Barrage because you get to use an actually useful elite.
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Old Mar 01, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20   #39
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Even against single targets, Barrage is an amazing elite. It has practically no cooldown, compared to the 6-10 second cooldowns of other Ranger attack skills, it costs 5 energy, compared to the 10 energy cost of some other Ranger attacks (Power Shot, Pen Shot, Sundering Shot), and it does 1/2 to 2/3 of the other attack skills bonus damage. A single target spammable attack, or a massive aoe attack > crip one target with no bonus damage.
If only you knew Warriors > Rangers for raw damage.
And if I wanted Barrage, I would take Volley and use a decent elite slot.
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Old Mar 02, 2008, 12:35 AM // 00:35   #40
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Barrage has a shorter recharge allowing you to fire every shot, volley can only be used every other. Barrage hits up to 7 targets for +5...17, Volley up to 4 for +1...8.
Barrage is only good in certain situations and in those situation it's better then Volley, if you feel Barrage isn't good enough to fill in the elite slot, Volley is likely not good enough to use a regular slot, except when (a) there's an empty skill-slot to fill or (b)when you'd really want to bring Barrage + another elite.
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